We’re Not Saying It’s Aliens, But...


Today on the pod, it’s a guest for whom David has been waiting for—Avi Loeb, an astrophysics professor at Harvard University who thinks it might just be possible that aliens have visited earth. Loeb talks about his research into Oumuamua, the first known interstellar object that’s passed through our Solar System, and gives his thoughts on the recently released UFO report from the Office of National Intelligence. Loeb also tells David and Sarah about his scientific philosophy—how science is like a fishing expedition where you throw out a hook and see what happens.

Show Notes:

-Avi Loeb’s book Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth

-On Oumuamua by Avi Loeb

-Office of National Intelligence UFO report

Compelled Speech and Religious Liberty


Could it be time for the Supreme Court to revisit Masterpiece Cakeshop? In today’s episode, David and Sarah discuss a ruling from the 10th Circuit requiring a web developer to create a site for a same sex wedding and what that means for the ongoing debate about compelled speech and religious liberty. They then chat about some new developments involving the lawsuit against Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks for his involvement in the January 6 riot and yet another story involving Amy Chua at Yale Law School.

Show Notes:

-10th Circuit Ruling on Compelled Speech

-DOJ refuses to defend Rep. Mo Brooks

Swinging for the Fences on Abortion


On today’s pod, the discussion is (almost) all about abortion jurisprudence. After a brief look at Taking Offense v. California—a California Court of Appeal for the Third Appellate District case striking down a California law criminalizing long-term care workers repeatedly misgendering their residents—David and Sarah dive into Mississippi’s challenge to Roe v. Wade, which directly asks the Supreme Court to overturn the almost 50-year-old precedent. How did the Mississippi attorney general frame the argument? How likely is it that the argument succeeds? What would American governance look like in a post-Roe world?

Show Notes:

-Taking Offense v. California

-Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization

And May it Please the Court


On today’s episode, David and Sarah talk about the recent Supreme Court term with Kannon Shanmugam, a Supreme Court litigant and a partner at Paul Weiss LLP. Our hosts ask Shanmugam what it’s like to argue cases remotely, how much the Supreme Court has changed during Amy Coney Barrett’s first term, and about the court’s judicial philosophy on issues like free speech and qualified immunity. Shanmugam talks about the cases he argued this term and explains how he chooses which clients to represent pro bono.

Show Notes:

-Borden v. United States

-BP v. Baltimore

-Goldman Sachs v. Arkansas Teacher Retirement System

-Henry Schein v. Archer and White

First Amendment Bonanza


It’s a First Amendment-themed pod today. First, David and Sarah discuss the city of Anaheim’s decision to cancel an America First rally with Matt Gaetz and Marjorie Taylor Greene, and how it’s a textbook example of a free speech violation. They then dive into a ruling from a very divided 9th Circuit about a high school coach who was fired for praying publicly with students after football games. Next, they chat about an 8th Circuit case involving University of Iowa and its selective enforcement of free association policies for Christian groups. Finally, David and Sarah talk about the recent Texas district court ruling striking down DACA.

Show Notes:

-Anaheim cancels America First rally

-9th Circuit prayer case

-8th Circuit University of Iowa case

-DACA ruling from district court

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