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A federal judge ordered the release of Trump’s former attorney Michael Cohen from prison on Thursday. On July 9, Cohen and his lawyer went into the U.S. Probation Office in Manhattan to transition from furlough to home confinement. But instead Cohen was arrested by three U.S. Marshals and brought back to prison. Why did this happen? David and Sarah explain.

Check out today’s episode to hear our podcasters discuss the presence of federal police in Portland, the defamation lawsuit against MSNBC host Joy Reid, and Trump’s latest executive order excluding illegal aliens from the 2020 census for apportionment purposes. David and Sarah wrap up the episode with a fiery debate over their favorite legal tv shows.

Show Notes:

-Check out Michael Cohen’s brief to the court and David’s latest French Press on the Crisis in Portland.

-Here’s Roslyn la Liberte’s defamation lawsuit against Joy Reid, a photo of the incident, and the Fox News article David mentioned: “MSNBC’s Joy Reid walks back comments on conservative David French after bipartisan Twitter beatdown.”

-Trump’s executive order excluding undocumented immigrants from the 2020 census, Clarence Thomas dissent from denial in Cohen v City of Houston, Cohen v City of Houston, see footnote 19 and 20.

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    SusanC

    Oranges and salt are two things that should never be paired with chocolate.

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      David French staff-badge Staff

      Truth.

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      SusanC

      Bacon is a third.

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    Tracie

    Regarding the Feds in Portland emerging from unmarked vans to detain protestors, Sarah made a really good point about rapists-murderers posing as law enforcement to take victims to the "second location." If you listen to international news, you know this also happens in other countries under the auspices of corrupt governments and police forces. We might think it can't happen here, but given the norms this administration has shattered, I 'm not putting it out of the realm of possibility.

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  3. Scott M. Univer

    I can provide the pronunciation of Mazars if you advise what email to send it to.

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  4. Victoria Ferauge

    Excellent podcast. Really appreciated the dive into what happened with Michael Cohen and Federal law around the Portland protests. This is why I a very content subscriber. Good work.

    I am watching the Portland protests closely; I have two siblings and parents living in that city. Have to agree that it is a mess. Using unmarked cars and camo and grabbing folks off the street?

    Not that this is better (or worse) but here in France we have the CRS (sometimes referred to as the CRS SS). This is a special anti-riot police force and when they are on the move you know it. Can't miss those vans and that uniform. Which in and of itself has a dampening effect on people's participation in protests. Prudent folks know to find somewhere else to be when these folks show up.

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    Gz Expat

    Showing your southern roots, David. Salt on chocolate...The right kind of chocolate.. Is delicious

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    Leo

    Why do you all feel like your sports teams have to have names. In the UK football leagues we have names like Manchester United, Manchester City Liverpool United football club. And despite these allegedly boring names, the Premier league is a much bigger locus of soft power than the American sports.

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    Ethan Cordray

    Question about reapportionment -- this might be more suited to one of Jonah's "half-baked ideas" Remnant episodes, but:

    Is there anything that would prevent a state from having non-geographical districts? I.e. what congressional district you belong to doesn't depend on where you live, but instead every new resident of the state is randomly assigned to a district, maintaining generally equal numbers assigned to each district. That would eliminate the possibility of gerrymandering, and make the process of redistricting completely blind to race, party affiliation, etc.

    I don't think it's as good an idea as massive expansion of the House of Representatives (say, to the George Washington 30,000/1 ratio, which would be about 10,000 representatives), but I'm curious whether it would be technically legal.

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      Sarah Isgur staff-badge Staff

      I've never thought about this--what an interesting hypothetical!

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    Tiffw

    David French is fabulous but continually shows questionable taste. Aquaman but no Casablanca? And now salted chocolate hate? I'm flummoxed.

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      David French staff-badge Staff

      I'm a rebel and and outlaw. What can I say?

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    Ethan Cordray

    David, you know that normal chocolate already has salt in it, right?

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    1. Pawpaw

      100% cocoa does not. Reading two labels in front of me. I prefer to keep my feta cheese and dark chocolate separate. But then again, we eat unsalted nuts and nut butters.

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        Ethan Cordray

        Sure, but 100% cacao isn't normal chocolate. The vast majority of chocolate that people eat has salt in it.

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        1. Pawpaw

          Again, read ingredients, which means more words: Hershey's bar: Milk Chocolate [Cane Sugar, Milk, Chocolate, Cocoa Butter, Milk Fat, Lecithin (Soy), Natural Flavor]. (only 11% cocoa)
          Dove bar: Ingredients : Semisweet Chocolate (Sugar, Chocolate, Chocolate processed with Alkali, Cocoa Butter, Milkfat, Soy Lecithin, Natural and Artificial Flavors
          Still no added salt in those. The higher end bars, no salt in vast? majority of those. Sara does like one with added salt.

          Now if by 'normal' chocolate you mean Reeses, Snickers, 3 Musketeers, Milky Way, Butterfinger, Twix, etc, American marketing has done a great job convincing the public these are 'chocolate' bars, when the amount of cocoa, even chocolate present may be just a few %. Sugar, palm oil, milk fat and protein, egg whites, nuts, etc those are cheap ingredients to stretch that bit of cocoa.

          So perhaps we can agree? You are right that the vast majority or all candy dipped in small amounts of chocolate does have added salt.

          But bars where the 1st ingredient is chocolate or cocoa, most don't have added salt, as above. I still stand with David on this one, as do most who enjoy mere (milk) chocolate plus sugar bars.

          Where to next? Ice creams in Nancy Pelosi's freezer(s)? Sarah and Nancy had similar tastes there....

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            Tracie

            I spend a significant portion of my income on Endangered Species 88% chocolate, and not cuz I necessarily care about endangered species. It has a bitter, almost fruity (no salt please) taste. I've tried every <85% dark chocolate bar on the shelf, and this is my go to.

            Salt does not work (for me) on chocolate b/c chocolate is supposed to be bitter (look up the Aztec root) with just enough sugar to take off the edge. Salt destroys that balance IMO.

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  10. Pawpaw

    Please be our Rangers instead of Sherpas, to help us through these times.
    Sarah could embrace either the legendary Texas law force and/or a pro Texas team who attempts fair play. And David's appeal could be thru LOTR, perhaps even leading to a gift of a (re)forged Anduril.

    I consume a lot of 100% dark cacao, no salt needed. For mixed with Jersey cow milk.

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